Knicks at Sixers open thread 01/24/09
by Jordan Sams on Jan 24, 2009 11:15 AM PST
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New York Knicks at Philadelphia 76ers, Jan 24, 2009 4:00 PM PST
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| 18-24 | 20-21 | |
| Enemy: Posting and Toasting | ||
| Prediction: 101-93 Sixers | ||
| 7:00 PM est |
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| TV: CSN |
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| Previous meetings: 116-87 W, 107-97 W |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Chris Duhon | PG | Andre Miller |
| Quentin Richardson | SG | Willie Green |
| Wilson Chandler | SF | Andre Iguodala |
| David Lee | PF | Thaddeus Young |
| Jared Jeffries | C | Samuel Dalembert |
We are approximately six hours away from the moment we've all been waiting for--the return of Elton Brand. His return could not have been scheduled at a better time. Since the Sixers haven't played since last Monday, coach DiLeo has had a chance to integrate him back into the offense, the players have had a chance to play with him and Brand's had a chance to test his injured shoulder. Not only that, but we as fans have had four days to anticipate, predict and dream about this game.
I'm sure we've all seen this quote/statement written in about 40 different ways.
Coach Tony DiLeo said the plan is to have Brand come off the bench that night and play in "short stints" of four, five or six minutes.
That's the plan for tonight and I think it will go over well. It allows the starting lineup of Miller, Green, Iggy, Thad and Sam to continue to do what they've been doing and Brand will essentially take Reggie Evans spot in the second unit. You can make the case that the starting lineup plays better without Brand, but you can't tell me that the second unit is better off with Reggie than Elton. Speaking of the second unit, Phil Jasner has a cool article on Brand starting the headband trend with the bench players this week and we get to see the "Head-banded Bunch" in action in this Dei Lynam video. I love it when players where headbands, especially when it's a unity thing. If they wear them tonight, I'm going to bust mine while I watch.
In other fashion news, the Sixers will be rockin' the throwbacks tonight and we found out yesterday that they will become permanent starting next season. I've been waiting for the switch for a long time now and I couldn't be happier. So, tonight when you watch Mo Speights throw down on 5 Knicks at the same time, in the throwback uniform, relish in the fact that we'll be seeing that very image for years to come.
And here's an interesting fact for tonight's game. The Knicks and Sixers have played twice this season. The Sixers have won both games and both wins got them to .500 on the season. When the Sixers first played the Knicks they were 0-1 and a win improved their record to 1-1. For the second matchup they were 19-20 and win made them 20-20. And tonight, they head into the game at 20-21. A win would get them to 21-21. A very interesting pattern is developing here. Hopefully next time we play the Knicks, we'll already be over .500.
Ultimately, I'm super-geeked for tonight's game. I expect Brand's return to be a triumphant one. A home game against the Knicks, plus four days off, plus the return of arguably our best player should equal win number 21.
7 p.m. eastern. Be here.
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tickets for tonight's game
could someone confirm/deny that tix are $10 at the window for tonight’s game
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by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions
idk think ur link is working man
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The Integration of Brand
For obvious reasons, tonight’s game will be a fun one to watch. In the original post, you mention that this could not have been scheduled any better. That’s a perfect choice of words as I firmly believe that this game was “scheduled” to allow for that week of practice time.
But conspiracy theories aside, I’ll be watching closely to see how Brand is worked into this offense. I’d like to see him catch the ball on the block a few more times rather than at the top of the key where he appeared uncomfortable operating in space. Because the Sixers have shown a willingness to shoot the three, the double should be a little bit slower to arrive when Brand catches the ball. He needs to attack in those circumstances. An effective post game will only open up the lanes for Thad and Iggy to do their thing. Should be fun.
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Definitely
I really like the idea of him coming off the bench.
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The headbands are out!
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OMG
The worst announcing tandem of all-time! Kenny Albert and Walt Frazier?!
Seriously?!
I had no idea Kenny graced basketball with his horrible announcing.
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Walt's suit doesn't help
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combine him with kenny albert
and you get vocal diarrhea
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gallinari
won’t be playing on back-to-backs? what is this the mlb? rookies dont need a pitch count
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If David Lee played on any other team would anyone care?
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions
yes, he;s a stud
and on my fantasy team
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I think he’s over rated cause he’s a knick – like yankees prospects – on a real team i think he’s a bench player
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
dude he's a stud
rebounding machine
think reggie evans who can shoot
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on what team?
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of course he's not gonna start over duncan or gasol
but he’s a good nba player
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Or Brand or Al Jefferson or most PFs in the league – he’s a bench player who puts up numbers on a terrible team – he’s grossly over rated – not to mention the ‘bird’ effect
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
you're naming elite power forwards though
i might give you bench player, but a really good one and championship team
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brad lidge with the honorary tip
i miss him with the astros :(
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agility and hostility
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sammys rockin the headband too
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iggy's jumper is money!
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willie green sucks!
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omg
iggy is amazing
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Iguodala is on a pace to score 144 points – can he keep it up?
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:14 PM PST reply actions
i predict he drops 29 in the first quarter
and stops there
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Hey wlat – the sixers own the knicks – it’s not a rivalry
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:16 PM PST reply actions
there;s definitely some energy in the building
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thad's jump hook is money
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Duhon on my fantasy team – i’m getting clobbered – help me out here at least
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply actions
Lousy finish but a great firs step by young to get to the basket
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply actions
fun first couple minutes
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By the way – League Pass is in free preview mode right now – so you all can catch the game
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions
kenny albert and frazier might scare ppl away
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i love u iggy
but no unnecessary fadeaways
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sam with a hook
yikes
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Ok – there’s some thing freaky going on tonight – sam dribbled and scored – that like never happens
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions
willie drills a 3 as well
magic is in the air
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It’s the trophy – that lovely trophy the astros will never ever see ;)
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
brad lidge once ruined my life
tonight he reverses the curse on my sports teams!
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Seriously – i’m down by 6 in 3 pointers made – so duhon making a few of those helps
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions
theres 3 of em
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miller is a beast
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iggy just nearly brought the roof down
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thad's taken 8 shots already
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make ur free throws!
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elton!!!!!!
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EB!
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the threes are outrageous
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without it the knicks would be getting blown out
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This isn’t a problem unique to this game – defending the thre is one of the primary weaknesses of this team
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
speights is questionable for this game by the way
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so, if he doesnt play we'll know why
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Questionable why? Injury that they didn’t mention?
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
knee tendonitis
nothing serious. i’d actually be surprised if he didn’t play, but he was listed as questionable by two sites
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Epitomizing the grandeur of the 3 point shot?
SOMEONE CUT OUT HIS TONGUE
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions
lol
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in come speights but
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and
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“Brand is in the game” more of a half court style
ARE YOU AN IDIOT
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions
How tall is Nate robinson supposed to be – cause lou williams ain’t that much taller
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions
5'8''?
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So yeah – lou williams probably isn’t 6 feet tall :)
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
or nate rob is closer to six feet?
btw i hate that he’s in the dunk contest again
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Nate will win again – with his ADA beneift.
Somehow I doubt Nate is closer to six feet – no one lies about being shorter :)
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
touche
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lee just completely owned brand
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did iggy just air a three?
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Yes and brand just muscled out the knicks for the put back
Hey look walt – when the knicks miss the sixers run – you idjit – with or without brand
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
i noticed that too
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m16!
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Time for brand to sit – please bring back in thad – and not reggie
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions
reggie's PT will probably be severely cut with brand's return
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It should be cut except when sams in foul trouble – yes i’d rather see sam over reggie
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
+1
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i'm feeling the headbands
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1 point lead :(
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ivey!
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did dalembert just finish?
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if you believe in +/-
sam and willie are the best in that stat tonight
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tie game
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on another 3
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or have a big 3
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8 threes already
4 by duhon
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wtf sam
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sam with the behind the back pass lol
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every time i start to believe in iggy's jumper
he does something like that
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DiLeo’s push towards the 3 is a bad thing in my opinion
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions
it’s necessary to intergrate EB back in the line up by spreading the floor with the 3.
by SexualTyrannosaurus on Jan 24, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a nice rationaliztion – but since it’s been going on for a while now it’s also a crock – they aren’t good 3 point shooters – especially Iguodala – having a mandate on attempts and makes in a game is a stupid coaching decision and leads to god awful xshots from iguodala
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
i think that's misinterpretted
i don’t think he’s making them shoot threes, just telling them, “if it’s open, take it”.
the five threes is just a reiteration of that
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9th 3
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i think i believe that nate rob is 5'8''
he looks pretty short
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dileo needs to put a mandate on how many they give up as well
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Really…
Though obviously a part of it is the fact that D’Antoni’s teams jack up a butt load of them.
true
this rotating defense is confusing me. how is there so many open threes.? i dont understand how come they don’t just man up
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sums up his career
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this is getting ridiculous
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This team is playing crap defense and not adjusting – and that’s on dileo
I think i might watch welcome home roscoe jenkins instead
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply actions
john, your fantasy player just said "ass" on tv
are you benching him next game, or just fining him
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i cant find it
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walt frazier is a looooser
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i'm hungry as balls
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at least Lee is representing the fantasy team
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new york life insurance
you’re going to need it yourself if that’s what you get your wife instead of a ring.
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if frazier uses provocative to describe a player again
i’m going to punch him in the face
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With the Sixers changing uni's next year I hope they are also going to change the logo on the court.
i'm sure they will
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dalembert took the headband off
must have credited it with his poor play
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i think everyone should
i miss AI
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thad with the jump hook
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i can't believe gallanari has a pitch count
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yeah
i’m still strongly against babying a player like that.
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dalembert with a fadeaway
i hate it
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what a horrible foul
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he heard you
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try it next time he does something stupid
which will most definitely be before the end of this game
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i demand a tag team steel cage match between
sam, willie, kenny albert and walt frazier.
winners are last one’s stnading
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there's no denying that sam is defending and rebounding well
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david lee
now that’s how u represent a fantasy team
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nice shot iggy
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13 threes
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walt is so gay
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speights just aired a free throw wtf
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they should sign me to a 10-day contract
i’d drop 30 every night
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i cannot tell you enough
how much i hate these announcers
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wtf!
how many times have we fouled a player shooting a three?!
GD ridiculous
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iggy mans up
wooooooooooo
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15 threes
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now there's a man who knows how to run the break
igggggggggggggy
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don't look now, but dalembert has played well
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while…especially against a team with no one over 6’8 :)
And the knicks have still had too much on the offensive glass
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
that's not sammy's fault
and yeah, but it’s good to note that he’s played well tonight. can’t take that away from him.
btw, jared jeffries is 6’11’’. yeah i was shocked too
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It’s not sammys fault that the knicks get too many offensive rebounds?:) His primary job is to prevent the offensive rebounds by the opponent
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
but he's not the only one who has that job
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Ugly win – 4 days rest at home against a crappy team – but they’re at 500 again – who knows – maybe they’ll move above it this time
by jemagee on Jan 24, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
i hope so
a win’s a win though. not all of ’em can be pretty
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